Topic: 666 Numbers of the Beast

[D.A.D.]

Number of the Beast

Is not the number 666 specifically, but a redundant representation of all number association. UPC, personal ID (Social Security here in the states), product identifications, date of purchase, day of freshness, license and registration of car, home, animals, bank number, money in wallet.

The number of the beast is that of all numbers associated with us as a human individual interacting in life and a “market place”. Through these numbers investigators are able to target and trace those numbers to construct a model of the individual and in essence capture a part of the soul of inquiry. This beast will then enslave that individual into a form of servitude and manipulations. In Genesis, God tells man that he is to count and name all the beast.   

Many of our religious text have metaphorical meaning to the stories as well as literal.  This intelligent behind all dogma is having the knowledge to differentiate the difference. We are able to do this as we gain experience and revisit the stories for missed meanings. Practiced and learned patients to education. This allows the individual to formulate a higher thought of intelligence as new reference points and connection in the synapse is made.

If in life you have no new experience and live within a life designed to be an un-intellectual cycle, (we don’t learn any moral, ethical, or prudent survival lessons and depend on others to interpret information) we become enslaved within the structure meant to capture the mind and then the body. 

What I find funny is that those who dismiss any religion are already trapped. Burn the books not with fire but with words. LOL. These people are dismissing information that could be prudent to their spiritual survival. Not one of that which believes in an almighty God, but, one, that lifts us in what we would perceive as the darkest of times. God is the individual who is in control of their own mind and emotion, physical and metaphysical presence. They are led when there is need of leading and they follow when there is need to follow.
 


Modified:
Numbers of the beast Example:

You go every Friday to by three eggs from a neighbor. The neighbor charges you 4 cents per egg. They know you come every Friday at a specific time. If they are in need of more funds he may raise the price of eggs, alter their available time in doing business, demand individuals buy 12 eggs. The use of the numbers for manipulation at their disposal to get what is needed for funds is near limitless. Morally we as the egg buyer can feel two ways about their manipulation, resistance or acceptance. One can be seen as evil while the other can be seen as a blessing. 

[Ninja Ed]

Ape, I think you have an irrational fear of depending on others for whatever reason.  Your neighbor changes the price on eggs because they're trying to selfishly make a buck, just like you're trying to selfishly eat their eggs, this is the fundamental basis of capitalism.  But the reason you have a buck in your pocket to begin with to actually buy eggs is because you're selfishly charging someone else for work that you perform.  So now your neighbor gets more efficient at producing eggs and you get more efficient at doing whatever it is you do, and that's a process called division of labor.  Division of labor has been with humanity since caveman times and has allowed our societies to flourish.  The ancient Egyptians knew it, Henry Ford knew it, and the Brady Bunch knew it.

I think you have this fantasy of being this completely self-reliant autonomous individual who doesn't depend on anyone for anything, and that's never going to happen.  Do you know how insanely inefficient and time-consuming it is to do everything yourself without any help?  I mean, other people let you down, it happens, I get that, it's just part of life and being this social animal called a human being.  But the alternative of farming of your own food, preparing it, creating your own tools, sewing your own clothes, securing your own supply of fresh water, building your own shelter, providing your own medical care, and defending your own home is just so completely ridiculous that most of us at least tolerate sharing a society with others just so we don't have to do that bullshit.

[D.A.D.]

What? You have no idea who I am dude? Your reply is completely irrelevant of the post there Dr. Freud.

I make a post about numbers and you contort it into my inability to work or depend on others. If anyone one here can’t play nice with others, it is not me.

On a side note:
I have money in my pocket because I provide a service for a fair price, nothing to do with greed. If I buy from my neighbor it is because I don't wish to care for chickens. This deflates your argument of self dependence. I deflate you.

Have an original thought for once and go snipe one of your own Threads ED.

[Number 14330]

Based on your total of posts I got to say that Eds theory is more than a little plausible to me. All of this biblical doomsaying coupled with the survivalism stuff? It's pretty far out there, man. I don't expect you to pull a Chris McCandless and take off into the wilderness, but it seems like that's what you want to at some level. Anarchy. Any situation which will force people to be almost completely self reliant (and possibly give you an edge due to all the prep-work). Biblical apocalypse. Mad Max-style wasteland.

Now, of course you're right - we don't know you. But we know your posts which seem to be your thoughts poured out in writing. Naturally we can't psychoanalyse you in any reliable way. But honestly? You're coming across like a manic street preacher wanting to give advance warning about the impending destruction of the world. Who wants that? If its really happening I absolutely don't want to walk around knowing that everyone I love are doomed (thanks for making my last days a bummer! ) - if its not going to happen, its simply pointless.

You say Ed is contorting your post, which is incorrect in my opinion. He wasn't talking about the specific post but the body of your posts. If anybody is answering different questions than they are asked it would be you (case in point: every single time people question you or your theories you get defensive or laugh about it dismissively instead of actually presenting counter-arguments).

[D.A.D.]

Chris? All the greats of our past were “Pretty far out there man.” Challenging even today’s technology and understanding. Self reliance is not a bad thing yet I am expanding on the diversity of skills and not the “expertise” (a false assumption) of one thing. The only one thing that a person can be an expert in is themselves. If, I was to take the total of some of the peoples on here postings, I could assume that they all were dead beats with no original thought living vicariously through the people of the entertainment industry. Though they have no hope of making it into any industry themselves they can only critique, ridicule and make fun of those they idolize. I don’t see your point with the total of my postings.

Who also is to say that I have not an edge the way things are now. I own property, a business, multiple vehicles, several large play toys, readying two kids for college. I speak several languages can read a few more and program in several more. Anything I tinker with I can make work. I have no debt and all original ideas. Oh yea i got other skills. My possibilities are endless. I am a survivalist so I write what I know. I appeal to those who have interest in the same thing. If your not interested in my postings, don’t get involved. I realize I could be talking over your heads, but, the world is not all about anyone here at TWN. LOL My post are for the bright spots that will come to TWN’s future and expand on the views I am setting now. They will provide information and not commentary.

The word Apocalypse means “Change” Not the end as you all have toe tagged to my postings. Not once will you find my words saying 2012 is the day everyone dies. This is all coming from you alls dogmatic little and simple minds. I am trying to expand them by helping you open your eyes to new and different things.     

Oh by the way, this post does not fit into the cover you just tried to blanket me with. This is an interpretation of a biblical text. It has to do with the manipulation of numbers and nothing to do with end of the world, 2012, or feeding off of cats.   

[Gwydion Frost]

* Gwydion Frost gracefully steps around the pile-up.

I'll toss my two cents into the ring on this one.

The Number of the Beast, as represented in the Bible, is very specific-- it is representing ONE being-- the Beast.

Your post seems to take the name of the "Number of the Beast", and apply it to the concept of the MARK OF THE BEAST-- which is defined in the Bible as the very thing you are discussing-- a means to identify/track/etc an individual-- and in the Bible, it even goes on to say that one will not be able to pretty much operate within society without it.

[D.A.D.]

The beast is Numbers. 666 = the variables in the misuse of numbers. You can't operate in a market place without Numbers. Now are you going to get a fair service or product for a fair price or are you going to get ripped off? I got a hand full of majik beans for sale.

[Officer Jaffa]

It's supposed to be 616, isn't it?

IIRC, they found some sort of Seventeen/Eighteen Thousand Year old papyrus of revelations that shows it to be a 'mistranslation of the beast' as it were.

I know it may have no actual baring on the arguement itself, but I thought it was worth just throwing it out there.

* Jaffa walks off, humming to himself...

[D.A.D.]

6+1+6= 15/3 = 5 laws of five. Interesting

IIRC? Is that what I should search as this sounds interesting? I know that Revelations goes back and is linked with the Jewish Torah (foundation for both the Christians and Muslim religions) but there had been no record. It was believed to be a verbal record of prophetic visions that was shared within the bloodlines of Abraham. Mathematics plays a major role in Yidish and Hebrew.

[Number 14330]

I do not appreciate personal attacks.

Nevertheless. I know you're adverse to Wikipedia, but I think this is the bit you are looking for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_115

Have fun.

[Gwydion Frost]

The beast is Numbers. 666 = the variables in the misuse of numbers. You can't operate in a market place without Numbers. Now are you going to get a fair service or product for a fair price or are you going to get ripped off? I got a hand full of majik beans for sale.

Excellent. Since you simply refuse to even acknowledge the actual document's own specificness about the Beast-- here's where I am going to pull the same thing you do.


I WANT PROOF-- show me, in ST. JOHN'S OWN WRITING [aka, The Book of Revelation]-- SPECIFICALLY where it SAYS that the BEAST IS NUMBERS, and is a purely SYMBOLIC ABSTRACT CONCEPT that we all commonly, and unfortunately-- mistakenly, refer to as MATH.




And Jon...? The number is either 666 or 616, depending upon the original language the document was written in...

It also holds that the Emperor Nero was possibly the number of the beast mentioned in the book as his name equals 666 in Hebrew,[43] if using the Greek spelling of Nero's name (Neron Caesar), but using the Hebrew symbols with their assigned numeric values (an ancient method known as gematria). However, a few ancient manuscripts of the Revelation say the number is 616, fifty less than the more well known numeral. A possible method to this problem lies in early translation. In the assumption that the Revelation was meant to be distributed among the Early Christians, it could very well be assumed that occasionally someone may have used the Latin spelling of Nero's name (Nero Caesar), so the total value of the gematria would be 616.

The fact that someone working for Marvel Comics deciding to number the #1 universe that we all know and love as Universe 616 is only evidence that Joe Q is in fact, Satan.

[MemnochZERO]

I think it was Alan Moore that coined 616 Marvel. Possibly another angry Brit.

And all i know is if the Beast had a number, he'd be getting mad bitches.

[Gwydion Frost]

I dunno, man... I've seen Hank with several different ladies over the years-- and I've come to the conclusion that he must be hung like a beast. Literally.

[Number 14330]

He's insanely intelligent, highly succesful and built like The Hulk. I don't think the fur hurts either.

[Buck]

I bet that gay rumor he spread after trish tilby got a lot of guys heads turned towards him too. i mean, how many dudes want to snag a doctor? who is specifically like, the best bear one could get? dunno how northstar kept his eyes on bobby, really.

[Number 14330]

Dude, Hank could totally score on either side of the fence. It's a buffet for him basically.